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Old 01-28-2011, 10:40 AM
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Arrow Habitable places in the world with the lowest UV/least sunlight?

A question. As some of you know, I am about to buy my first house. But I found out a piece of information about the area I have been planning on moving to that scares the heck out of me. I was accidentally misled by a few family and friends in that area (who said that there was only about two weeks of sunlight the entire year) and apparently there is a huge, solid over two month long block of time that is sunny from early in the morning until between 9:00-10:00 PM.

With me having SLE and being severely allergic to sunlight as a result, I can’t handle two solid months of being unable to get to stores, get something from outside, or even open my own front door for up to 17 hours per day.

So now to my question: Do any of you know of habitable places anywhere in the world that get extremely limited amounts of sunlight and reptiles are legal as pets?

Here are my preferences:

As little sunlight as physically possible. Unfortunately moving around and ‘following’ wherever the darkest places in the world happen to be at that time isn’t practical for me, so I am looking for somewhere that is as cloudy as I can find year-round.

Hopefully relatively safe. I’ll be moving alone and I am afraid that my Pomeranian and my Chihuahua/Terrier mix aren’t exactly guard dog material.

Somewhere my reptiles are legal, and that has pet stores and other similar places nearby.

Somewhere that cost of living isn’t too high.

I would prefer English speaking, though I am a quick learner when it comes to languages.

Preferably somewhere that I wouldn’t be sticking out like a sore thumb. I am currently a tall, very pale skinned light-eyed redhead in an area filled with tanned blondes and brunettes. I get stared at constantly and am not always treated kindly because of said coloring. I’d like somewhere that I fit in a bit better.

I have been doing my own research on this, but I am finding very few concrete results. I am seriously considering various areas in the UK and in Canada as possibilities, but am having a hard time narrowing down individual towns, cities, areas, etc.

Anyone have any tips, suggestions, or advice?

Thanks in advance!
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Old 01-28-2011, 02:26 PM
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Re: Habitable places in the world with the lowest UV/least sunlight?

Have you considered Toronto's underground walkway?
See: City of Toronto: PATH - Toronto's downtown walkway

Is there a support group (or groups) for SLE? If so, perhaps they could offer suggestions.
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Old 01-28-2011, 03:16 PM
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Re: Habitable places in the world with the lowest UV/least sunlight?

I lived in the UK (Scotland) for about 9 months and rarely ever saw the sun there, if at all. I don't know what summers are like, though. I left around May or June. London is about as overcast as it gets. With all the cultural activities it has to offer, London or some place close to it might suit you. And of course there's Harrod's for all your shopping needs. I can't speak to prices and cost of living. I don't know what you will be doing for a living there. Also, people in London are very pale skinned, so you'd probably fit right in. Paris is a hop, skip, and a jump away by ferry, and it's also very dreary (weather-wise) in the winter months. I found Brits and northern Europeans to be charming and lovely people but also very reserved, unlike people of warmer climates such as Spain and Greece, who are more 'in your face' with displays of emotion. Brits also have a stunning sense of humor. It would be challenging moving overseas with all of your pets, and particularly the reptiles, though.

Melissa, didn't you have another, larger dog that you bought as a guard dog to take with you on your runs? Edit: Now I remember, it was a chocolate lab.
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Re: Habitable places in the world with the lowest UV/least sunlight?

Thank you both, I will write those down as possibilities to look into. Sherri, would you mind if I asked what part of Scotland you were in? I think you've told me before, but I can't remember.

Sore subject, regarding the Lab. When Frost was dying of lymphoma in October, my vet told me that because he was responding to medication at that time I may have another four to six years with him but he couldn't be around large, rambunctious animals due to how weak he was. Bentley was wonderful but very active and clumsy; he often would inadvertently bowl over the cats in his excitement. I had no way to keep the two separate. My choices were allow someone else to have Bentley (my wonderful, beloved chocolate Lab boy) or euthanize Frost when I could have had years with him. At the end of the day, I'd had Bentley for four and a half months, and had Frost for four and a half years. I chose Frost.

A relative of mine absolutely adored Bentley and I asked him to take him until Frost passed and he said yes, but only if him having Bentley was permanent. Thinking I would have years with Frost I very reluctantly agreed, knowing that I didn't really have another choice and at least I would be able to see Bentley on a regular basis.

Five days later, Frost stopped responding to medication and passed, so I ended up losing both of them.
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Re: Habitable places in the world with the lowest UV/least sunlight?

I'm so sorry, Melissa. I did not realize you had to give away your lab. I'm sure you mentioned this at one point. Please forgive my bad memory.

I lived in St. Andrews on the east coast of Scotland. But from what I saw during my occasional visits to Glascow, the west coast was pretty gloomy as well.
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Re: Habitable places in the world with the lowest UV/least sunlight?

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...my occasional visits to Glascow, the west coast was pretty gloomy as well.
I think that's "Glasgo".
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Re: Habitable places in the world with the lowest UV/least sunlight?

I spent about 6 yrs in England, and yes it's cloudy and rainy a lot....but in the Summer it can be sunny and hot.
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Re: Habitable places in the world with the lowest UV/least sunlight?

You mean Seattle (etc) is too sunny??? I was also thinking Ireland/Scotland, but can't offer personal experience with them...(much less the laws regarding herps?) I'm so sorry about your pal Bentley, that's awful!!!...hugs!
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Re: Habitable places in the world with the lowest UV/least sunlight?

My friend in Glasgow takes me on his walks via Skype from his phone and it always seems to be overcast, I'd love to live there it seems like a special place
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Re: Habitable places in the world with the lowest UV/least sunlight?

How about Alaska?
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Re: Habitable places in the world with the lowest UV/least sunlight?

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I think that's "Glasgo".
Actually, it's Glasgow. Type on my part.
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Re: Habitable places in the world with the lowest UV/least sunlight?

What about in a rainforest/cloudforest?
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What about in a rainforest/cloudforest?
If you can find one that for sure no one is trying to cut down...?
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Re: Habitable places in the world with the lowest UV/least sunlight?

In light of your seafood allergies you might want to rule out places where seafood figures prominently in the local cuisine? As cross contamination would be much more likely, with disastrous results for you? (so much for hanging out with the penquins...)
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Re: Habitable places in the world with the lowest UV/least sunlight?

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What about in a rainforest/cloudforest?
I don't think anyone is trying to cut down the Olympic rain forest The pacific northwest could turn out to be a good option - like somewhere on the Olympic peninsula of Washington. It does get sunny in the summer, but it's always broken up by periods of overcast raininess. Plus as far as I know, no big restrictions on keeping snakes and reptiles
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Re: Habitable places in the world with the lowest UV/least sunlight?

I would recommend Galway, Ireland. If you live in the Connemara area there is very little in the way of bright or strong sunlight.

As far as safety goes the Garda do an excellent job of keeping people in line. There is a little bit of petty theft (generally in tourist-y areas) but other than that it is extremely safe. I never thought twice about walking home alone down dark alleys even at 3 in the morning.

Despite what people will tell you reptiles are absolutely legal there (even snakes) and there are at least 2 big pet stores in Galway city proper and tons of huge ones in Dublin.

The housing costs have also dropped dramatically with the recent downturn in the Irish economy.

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I think that's "Glasgo".
Neither is correct - it is Glasgow.
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Re: Habitable places in the world with the lowest UV/least sunlight?

Melissa I wish I lived someplace cloudier and cooler....but no way could you come here!!!

You are in the USA, right? How about Seattle? Is it not just about always cloudy or raining there? Or someplace in Oregon, maybe? Or how about Canada some place? Like BC? I know you have to check the animal laws too. Sorry I am not much help. I just wish you best of luck because you deserve it!
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