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Question Would like Info on Blue Racer

Can anyone tell me about the blue racer? I saw a pair today at Petco and never seen one before. Quite beautiful, and the largest one which I think was female was the cutest, feistiest thing, ever, striking at me, hitting the glass and rattling her tail on the substrate like crazy. I just found that cute. They both had some really big, mean lookin' hawk-like eyes... is what they reminded me of.

But as usual they're in enclosures which are much too small for them and I could tell they were really stressed out.

Anyways, I would just like to know more about them, such as the husbandry and all that.

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i never heard of a blue racer i know that around where i live there are wild "black racers" ? Those are the only racer's i know.
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I think the blue racer is also known as the Eastern Yellowbelly Racer. That's all I'm able to find online.

They looked all black to me, but they didn't really look like the black racers I've found around here.
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Heres is the best place to look that I know of.
http://forums.kingsnake.com/forum.php?catid=83
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Heres is the best place to look that I know of.
http://forums.kingsnake.com/forum.php?catid=83
Thanks, but there wasn't anything specific in there about husbandry for them. Looked all through the threads.. lol

this one looks very similar to the ones I saw yesterday
http://forums.kingsnake.com/view.php?id=914558,914558
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Thanks, but there wasn't anything specific in there about husbandry for them. Looked all through the threads.. lol
this one looks very similar to the ones I saw yesterday
http://forums.kingsnake.com/view.php?id=914558,914558
Well what do you want to know? Temps, humidty, ect?
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Well what do you want to know? Temps, humidty, ect?
Yeah, like the general temps, humidity, etc.

They sure as heck look like black racers to me, though. I just looked through a reptile book. If they really are black racers, then I know pretty much the basics of husbandry, but I want a better, more specific idea.
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yea if they are black racer's they have a bad temperment from first hand experience they also will chase which i found very strange and have never had a snake chase me. Since they are local i bet they eat alot of toads and frogs too.
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thats funny, I was holding out as long as I could.

I've never kept blue racers (C.c.foxi) but I HAVE kept yellow bellied.

Since Blue's come from more northern ranges, im guessing a moderately warm cage (mid to high 70's) with a basking spot lamp making a 82-85 degree spot would be a good start.
I've never had problems starting even WC animals on f/t fuzzy mice or pink rats.

They seem to prefer smaller food items than a kingsnake or cornsnake would.

As far as temperment goes, they can go either way. I've seen racers that were very tame and would show no signs of aggression, and i've also seen ones that were very nervous and did not like to be handled.

Best thing I could recommend is find out how they have been keeping the ones at the pet store, ASK to see it eat, and if it eats in front of you, how ever they are keeping it (cage/temps) is probably just fine for it.

They are pretty tough, and baring extreme heat and cold, they can do pretty well in captivity once established.

I had a yellow belly that had been hit by a car that did just fine with the same care one would give a corn snake or kingsnake. Despite having some serious physical issues, he lived for a few years.
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thats funny, I was holding out as long as I could.
Now that's not very nice...! LOL!

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I've never kept blue racers (C.c.foxi) but I HAVE kept yellow bellied.

Since Blue's come from more northern ranges, im guessing a moderately warm cage (mid to high 70's) with a basking spot lamp making a 82-85 degree spot would be a good start.
I've never had problems starting even WC animals on f/t fuzzy mice or pink rats.

They seem to prefer smaller food items than a kingsnake or cornsnake would.

As far as temperment goes, they can go either way. I've seen racers that were very tame and would show no signs of aggression, and i've also seen ones that were very nervous and did not like to be handled.

Best thing I could recommend is find out how they have been keeping the ones at the pet store, ASK to see it eat, and if it eats in front of you, how ever they are keeping it (cage/temps) is probably just fine for it.

They are pretty tough, and baring extreme heat and cold, they can do pretty well in captivity once established.

I had a yellow belly that had been hit by a car that did just fine with the same care one would give a corn snake or kingsnake. Despite having some serious physical issues, he lived for a few years.
Blue racers were what Petco had them labeled as, but from all the descriptions I've read, blue racers are not black (i could be wrong), and these ones were black and looked more like black racers. The eyes were brown though and the black racer eyes were black from all the pics I could find. I know what black racers are like as far as temperament from some experience with them myself a couple years ago. lol Feisty, I like that. LOL

About what size enclosures have you kept your yellowbelly racers in?

Thanks for the info
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Yeah, like the general temps, humidity, etc.
They sure as heck look like black racers to me, though. I just looked through a reptile book. If they really are black racers, then I know pretty much the basics of husbandry, but I want a better, more specific idea.
I believe blue racers like it 70-mid 80's. A big cage. Humidity can be almost anything higher than 30%. It depends on the snake. They say to feed a racer every 4-5 days because of their very high metabalism. Usually blue racers will get around 3-4 feet maybe more. They are high strung as hard to get to eat in captivity. A c.b.b blue racer would be easier than a w/c racer. I think that blue racers are highly alike with coachwhips. A coachwhip care sheet may even help. They say that about 1-1 1/2x the length of the snake and 1/2 the snakes length deep is a good size for a single one because of their high activty needs. I would say for a racer a 4'by2' would be more than enough. It all depends on the keepers idea of an active snake. I believe they are the 3rd fastest snake(maybe in the worlds or maybe north america) so watch out for that. Some will require some scenting with lizard of some kind or a chick to get them to take a good meal
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Okay, that's a pretty good idea of them then. Thanks
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No problem, if you want the black racert look without the tude then a black rat is a good choice. Very similar. Eitherway good luck
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No problem, if you want the black racert look without the tude then a black rat is a good choice. Very similar. Eitherway good luck
Nah, I like a good feisty attitude.
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Nah, I like a good feisty attitude.
ok....... Well back to the classifieds
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Thanks, but there wasn't anything specific in there about husbandry for them. Looked all through the threads.. lol
this one looks very similar to the ones I saw yesterday
http://forums.kingsnake.com/view.php?id=914558,914558

local pet store had one, it was mean, go close to the glass and it would strike like crazy.. i dont know the name though, it looked close to that one..
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local pet store had one, it was mean, go close to the glass and it would strike like crazy.. i dont know the name though, it looked close to that one..
That's probably what it was... a black/blue racer. Yep, the one I fell in love with at Petco was striking at me like crazy and rattling her tail. Hehe, cute.
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yea if they are black racer's they have a bad temperment from first hand experience they also will chase which i found very strange and have never had a snake chase me. Since they are local i bet they eat alot of toads and frogs too.

No kidding. Black racers have some attitude.
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