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Old 03-23-2009, 11:24 PM
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Angry Dent in eye???

So i was looking at my big girl yesterday, and the way the light hit her eye I saw a dent... I don't know wtf it is... I don't know if I should be concerned or what... It doesn't seem to affect her vision... She moves her eye to look at anything that moves oh that side, as well as the other... Her eye is completely clear and doesn't look like there is anything wrong with it at all, other then the little dent... You can't even really see it unless u look at an angle... I don't have a cam that can take a good enough pic right now to see it, and she just ate today... Any idea why or what it could be??? she shed a couple weeks ago, a nice one piece shed with eye caps... I pinched her skin to see if she was dehydrated and it went right back to normal, so I don't think she's dehydrated... I mist the snakes multiple times a day and her cage stays in the 60% +or- a few... So temps and humidity is fine, she has plenty of water, she eats great, hasn't had a bad shed... UUUGH!!... Any ideas???
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Old 03-23-2009, 11:26 PM
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Re: Dent in eye???

I know this happens with BPs occasionally and it isnt always necessarily a sign of anything wrong, it just happens. I dunno about boas though, hopefully someone will be able to help.
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Old 03-23-2009, 11:28 PM
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Re: Dent in eye???

It's a sign of dehydration. Bump the humidity a little, or you can soak the snake in a shallow dish of water.
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Old 03-23-2009, 11:31 PM
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rawr... I'll have to mist her more and give her a bath... she actually enjoys her baths, lol
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Old 03-23-2009, 11:33 PM
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Re: Dent in eye???

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It's a sign of dehydration. Bump the humidity a little, or you can soak the snake in a shallow dish of water.
I agree. Good advice,too.
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Old 03-23-2009, 11:36 PM
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Re: Dent in eye???

yea dehydration is what i hear the dents mean too what is her humidity in her cage anyway?
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Old 03-23-2009, 11:50 PM
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Re: Dent in eye???

when I spray the cage it can jump up to 70% but the usually stays around 62% until all the newspaper dries... Which takes hours and I usually spray the cages every few hours or so during the day... The humidity in the room itself stays in the mid to high 40%
We were talking about getting a humidifier for the room... Do ya'll think that will help? They are using newspaper and paper towels right now because of the mite issue I had a month ago... I'll prolly move them back to regular substrate in another month or 2... But I do have their water bowls under the lights to produce more humidity... Anything else I can do?
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Re: Dent in eye???

What kind of cages are they in?
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Old 03-24-2009, 12:48 AM
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She's in a 6x2x2 melamine cage
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Old 03-24-2009, 03:19 AM
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Re: Dent in eye???

Get the snake off newspaper and switch to cypress mulch. Cypress will hold humidity. If you pre-treat the bedding you won't have a mite issue, and if you use mite off on the bedding the mites will die off on the snake.
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and yes, humidifier should help but it may create mold.
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Old 03-24-2009, 03:30 AM
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Re: Dent in eye???

alright... I'll have to go check out the cypress... I've heard that cypress can get mold on it though... Is that true? I just don't wanna have to change out 4 bags or so of cypress every week XD
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Re: Dent in eye???

If you use aspen and can freeze it, it can be cheaper than cypress and it holds humidity too. Get rid of the paper and mist more and the humidity will come up. They don't need a substrate in a melamine enclosure. Don't get a humidifier with cypress it will cause mold.
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If you use aspen and can freeze it, it can be cheaper than cypress and it holds humidity too. Get rid of the paper and mist more and the humidity will come up. They don't need a substrate in a melamine enclosure. Don't get a humidifier with cypress it will cause mold.
Uh.. you can buy a huge bag of cypress mulch at lowes for $1.75.
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Uh.. you can buy a huge bag of cypress mulch at lowes for $1.75.
Undyed up here is like $8.95 40lb bag
Dyed (red or black) $12.95 40lb bag
Bag of aspen $4.75 5ft compressed
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Re: Dent in eye???

My snakes seemed to not really like laying on mulch. I switched them all from mulch to aspen. Aspen takes a little more work for low humidity issues but not as much as newspaper does, + if the cage is big enough, you can put a tub of more heavily misted cypress in addition. I've done this to increase humidity a little more when it's shedding time.

I kid you not, I have a snake that the way her cage was built, she would stay off of the mulch, then I switched to straight newspaper, and she utilized more of her cage. Subsequently switched to aspen and she still utilizes the whole floor of the cage.

IMO though, the most economical substrate use to keep up the humidity is cypress or hemlock mulch from a home improvement or landscaping place. For our tegu we use hemlock. 3 cu. ft for 4 bucks.
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Re: Dent in eye???

Thanks for the advice guys... I've also heard about using moss? Anyone have any advice with that one?
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Re: Dent in eye???

Terrarium moss worked great for a humidity box for the b.p's and I can't see why it wouldn't hold humidity for a bci.
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Re: Dent in eye???

i hate cypress myself, every time ive tried it, it molded within 2 days and i didnt even mist it LOL. i like the aspen, for me it holds humidity up at about 65% without misting it and its not too expensive.

how about making her a humid box? just get a plastic tub, cut a hole big enough for the snake to get in it, and fill it up with some bedabeast, and put that damp shagnum(sp?) moss on top of the bedabeaset when i get the new cages i wanna make a little humid box for all my snakies
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Re: Dent in eye???

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm... The humid box is a good idea... I'll have to see about making one out of a tub... I'm sure she'd love that since she likes to hide from us anyway >.> haha
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